Airborne debris - Issue? How to avoid?

[Purpl3_Haz3]

 

So, as the topic states, Airborne debris, are they an issue for you? If so, how do you avoid them?

I live in new england, and I don't know if it's a side effect of that, or just my particular location, but I've never been able to figure out how I should go about spraying without getting debris from the air into the oil; therefore I've never actually made BHO, just QWISO oil. Granted my QWISO oil comes out as pretty and tasty as some of the stuff here, I know that I could be taking a lot less time and getting a overall better product using 'tane as a solvent vs ISO.

So, today I decided I'd take the plunge and spray some flowers I got some Sour Diesel from the dispensary, a SSTB from Bed Bath & Beyond, a stainless steel "permanent coffee filter" (Brew Rite brand) from Walmart, and a couple cans of Vector from the LHS. I cleaned the tube with ISO and let it dry, and cut out some screen from the permanent coffee filter. Then I set up the screen/non bleached coffee filter on the end of the baster, to get the SS screen to take shape.

I took ~8 grams of Diesel and packed up the tube, using some smaller pea size pieces to start with in the small end, then slightly larger buds, working up to whole buds. I had a nice even pack that came to the end perfectly. I covered the tube with screen setup and used two plastic zip ties to hold the filters in place. Before packing the tube, I started boiling some water, in a large pot that the pyrex fit into the top of nicely. I also had my pyrex sitting in the oven, at ~155* (IR temp gun used.) Once everything was ready, I took the rex out of the oven, and sat in on top of the pot of boiling water. I took that outside, along with my packed SSTB, can of vector, torch, IR temp gun, small towel and glove.

Using the IR temp gun, I watched the temp of the pyrex/water and waited for it to drop to about 150* then I proceeded to spray! I used what I believe to be ~1/3 of the can of vector, to be on the safe side and make sure I got the majority of the goodies out of the flowers.

The spray went just fine as far as I could tell at the time; no blow backs, leaking tane, etc. But, as soon as the majority of the liquid 'tane had evaporated, I could clearly see a large amount of random particulate/debris. This wasn't from the flowers either, it was from the air. I realized that right in front of my eyes, more and more crap was just landing in the dish. WTF! There wasn't really anything I could do at that point. The liquid 'tane hadn't fully evaporated, so I couldn't go inside, and I had nothing with me or near by to cover the dish to keep the debris away.

So, once it seemed to be as purged as it would get sitting there, I moved to another location in my yard, took my torch and lightly razed the 'tane bubbles, and a couple of not-so-tane bubbles lol. I brought the setup inside, and contemplated what to do. I could have picked the particulate/debris out, but even so, AFAIK the butane would have already extracted stuff from the debris that got in the dish, assuming it was say from trees, or flowers/plants; think pollen, etc. I thought about doing an ISO wash of the remaining product, and even started doing that. But I got frustrated about the whole situation and just said screw it, and I dumped the rex out.

So, here I am, with ~6 grams of diesel left, not quite enough for the SSTB, and not enough for my QWISO method. Oh well.

My question to all of you still stands. I didn't think that one part of my run through, and ended up suffering. I may also have suffered from hastily ditching the oil, yet I somehow feel it was a lost cause. My tentative plan, after about 2 hours of thought, and a joint (yuck) of diesel, is this; I will go buy a screen house type deal. They have a solid top (canopy) to prevent rain, debris, etc, and it is a screened in enclosure. I figure this should work, it won't pose any hazard that I can see. This would allow my to do my runs, and initial purge outdoors, completely under cover, and even provide a little more discretion. Then, once I've done the initial purge, I can bring it inside, covered if need be, and continue purging. Does anyone see an issue with this, or have any suggestions in the way of a better solution? If so, any info would be greatly appreciated.

TL/DR: In my yard, even under clear sky (no trees directly above) there is too much airborne debris to spray without the dish getting filled with crap. Is there a better solution than purchasing a screen house to spray in?

Thanks in advance for any info, and I apologize if this has been discussed before; I searched the forum/net to no avail. Am I the only one having this problem?

[rife]

 

You should have turned that first extraction into Absolute Amber with alcohol and winterization, it would have been better than BHO.

Are you in the middle of your lawn? Try doing it in an open box or something

[Jackie Papers]

 

Originally Posted by Purpl3_Haz3

TL/DR: In my yard, even under clear sky (no trees directly above) there is too much airborne debris to spray without the dish getting filled with crap. Is there a better solution than purchasing a screen house to spray in?

Thanks in advance for any info, and I apologize if this has been discussed before; I searched the forum/net to no avail. Am I the only one having this problem?

SPRAYING IN SCREENED PORCHES/TENTS/"HOUSES" IS THE SAME AS SPRAYING INSIDE. Es no bueno.

[MAsupaSKUNK]

 

Originally Posted by Jackie Papers

SPRAYING IN SCREENED PORCHES/TENTS/"HOUSES" IS THE SAME AS SPRAYING INSIDE. Es no bueno.

how you gonna get a spark in an out door screen house? with 4 sides of screens and ventilation?

theres no electricity in there, he's using it to spray and that's it... not set up an outside purging station

your screen house should be perfectly fine as long as it's only being used to spray and start a warm water bath before bringing it inside.

im also from New England just so you know, so i know what you're talking about. the pollen and shit goes everywhere... i just spray on my porch where theres an overhang. hope this helps

[Paul420MW]

 

I try to spray on days where it isn't windy, and if shit gets in I either just smoke it or pick it out later, usually its not too big of a deal to me.

[sLug215]

 

its not plant matter coming through your screen? ive never had noticeable issues with debris randomly floating. maybe a small piece or two. i spray on the platform of a wooden swingset. its raised up off the ground about 4 feet and has a cloth roof over it but not any covered sides.

[Dropin BHOms]

 

even if it looks like its not plant matter, it usually is. Small pieces can still make their way through the filter setup. Try two or 3 unbleached filters and use a hose clamp to make sure its nice and tight.

[hashoildabs]

 

you threw it away because there was a couple particulates in it?

[COmeduser]

 

A couple pieces of debris won't kill you. Do your spraying when it isn't windy. When 90% of the 'tane is gone, take a dental tool and pick out the few pieces of visible plant shit flying through the air.

[Purpl3_Haz3]

 

Alright, first off, to anyone saying I could've kept it. I KNOW. it was hasty, and a bad decision. Also, I am sure it was airborne debris, not particulate from flowers, as it continued to fall into the dish well after I was done spraying. I used whole buds, with a coffee filter/SS screen, if anything got through, it would have been so miniscule that I wouldn't have cared. this stuff smelled gross, like the outdoors (not like our flowers, or oil smell) and had a funky black/red color to it as it evapped. I'm assuming this was from the crap that got in. Either way, none of this matters, I threw it out already.

On to the matter at hand, Jackie Papers, why would a screen house be no go for the same reason as a house? Yes it is an enclosure, where butane can pool. If I am grounded, so as not to provide a static spark, and my screen house isn't wire for electricity, and i"m in the middle of the yard, how does that posed an issue? I can spray, leave, and take down the screen house/open it up. AFAIK, the reason against spraying indoors, wasn't just to keep the tane from pooling, it was because indoors, there are numerous sources of ignition, that could cause your pooled tane to go boom.

Can someone back up jackie papers on this?

Once again to everyone else, yes it is a little windy, but not much. The crap in the air is unavoidable. I can hold a plate or anything outside in my yard and within a couple minutes collect a pile of crap.

COmeduser, I actually soaked what I ended up with in the rex, in 91%ISO, and put that through a coffee filter, to get all of the crap out (lots of dirt/crap from the air) and the solution I was left with, evapped to a gross black/dark red solution, that produced black smoke and horrible smell when burnt. Nothing like the qwiso I've made, (clear/yellow/amber sap/shatter)