Shady’s Grow Journal #4: More Strains & Growing Pains... - Page 43

Shady · 06-13-2010, 08:46 PM

Sup sfzoo, BIG CHEEFA, bananabuds420, OGEEZY, Tha Docta, Butcher Bob, Justiceman, and barberhead420! Thx for all the love and positive vibes... I wrote up a pretty good post, so I'll let that do the talking this time...

Round Five… The Final Flush

Whew… Round Five is now on cruise control. The last week of MOAB seemed to do the trick. Today I final flushed all the girls with 15 gal of R/O water and a little over 1 tsp/gal of FloraKleen, all of which was set to a 5.8 pH. Before I post the bud shots I took last night, I’d like to recap Round 5. There are 8 clones in coco and chunky perlite (1:1 ratio), and one clone in hydroton with the remaining 7 hydroton pots being the original seedlings germinated in the OP of Round 4. It has been a long journey for these seedlings, and this round has brought forth new challenges and first experiences with coco, drain to waste (DTW), and mixing two diff mediums in an automated system.

As summer began and Round 6 was set into motion, the rooms became very hot… daily temps of 85 deg in the bathroom and 82 deg in the bedroom, and undoubtedly lower CO2 levels from all the plants including those in the Shady Veg Station. The additional plants and the upcoming Under Current addition will require proper ventilation, A/C, and a chiller. For now, let’s all enjoy some eye candy…

Here’s a few quick shots under the 600W HPS…

Master Kush x Bubba Kush…

Double Underdawg #3…

And now for the killer shots after lights out last night…

Some more MxB shots…

The OG Kush has some fat calyxes and smells absolutely dank…

Raskal’s OG #2 (the autoflower) is actually looking pretty damn good and she’s solid as a rock…

Raskal’s OG #1 stayed green till day 60 and has really put on some weight…

And the new #3’s…

Sensi Skunk #3…

Raskal’s OG #3…

Blue Hellfire x Kali Mist #3…

The res has now been filled with RO set to 6.0 pH and I’ve added the secondary screen to keep the upper colas in place.

Shady · 06-13-2010, 08:48 PM

Things are also looking good in Round 6 LED test grow, but I’ll also need another screen there at the end...

Over the last week the stretch is starting to slow down and yesterday I did the last cleanup of the sucker branches at the bottom canopy below the screen…

The girls were fed the following mix wherein I’ve discontinued the N.U.T.S. and lowered the overall PPM’s. The PK booster will be used in Wks 3, 5, 7, and possibly 8. I’m not sure when to discontinue use of Roots Excelurator, but I will def continue it through Wk 5:

Shady Round 6 LED Bloom Feedings… 6/11/10
Shady’s Mix to begin WK#4:
CalMag (CM): 4 ml/gal
Pure Blend Pro Soil (PBP Bloom): 10 ml/gal
Flora Blend (FB): 10 ml/gal
HammerHead PK 9/18 (HH): 0 ml/gal
Bud Candy (BC): 5 ml/gal
Roots Excelurator (RE): 1 ml/gal
Total PPM’s(@ 0.5 conversion ratio): 754 PPM’s @ 6.32 pH

The scrog looks great from the back…

And the front…

I also raised the panels to be exactly 6” above the highest colas…

And still have a little more room to go higher if needed…

The bud sites are developing nicely and the internode spacing is tight. Here’s a few of my fav strains starting to get some frost…

OG Kush…

Double Underdawg #3…

Chemdawg’s Sister/D #1…

Sonnyjim23 · 06-14-2010, 12:07 AM

Looking good shady, can't wait to see how frosty your nugs get since you are using that led.

Keep on with the excellent work, I will definitely be around watchin!

Shady · 06-15-2010, 09:18 PM

Thanks for stopping by Sonnyjim23! I really appreciate the good karma and kind words.

Shady Bud Shots…

Nothing crazy to report; just thought I’d share a few bud shots I took tonight…

Round 5… Day 63

Sensi Skunk #3…

OG Kush…

Double Underdawg #3…

MxB’s…

Round 6… Day 28

Chemdawg’s Sister/D #1…

Double Underdawg #3…

A portion of the scrog…

OG Kush…

Rowdy · 06-16-2010, 05:50 AM

Nice work there Shady, you've got your hands full running so many unknowns. I talked to the Advanced rep the other day with their version of the LED panel, those things are bright. I was wondering what type of panels you are running and if you have ever looked into Enlux.com. I use soom of their red and blue LEDs as supplimental lighting and my dude at the grow store has been sent some 50/50 red/blue, and some 70/30 red/blue mixed bulbs to try out. These bulbs have a patent on the driver design and I have not seen anyone come close to the technology that this company is coming with.
The second bit of info I'll share with you would be the use of a water cooled chiller system. I invested in a water cooled system this summer and have been pleasantly surprised at the control over night and day temps. I did get sent a bad unit, long story that I'll spare everyone with details. The company did make everything right in the end but , what a freaking nightmare it is to walk into your show and find 93 degree temps, ouch. When it is running smoothly the differential in day and night temps are creating some beatiful purple thru out. The only company doing anything in our field is Chillking but, I have done some more research and have found several chiller manufactures that are not even into our business yet. Competition is a good thing.
Again outstanding job on the posting and pics you do, I wish my wife would give me a green light to post some pics. Keep pushing the technology boundary. Good luck, Peace.

Shady · 06-16-2010, 05:23 PM

Thx for stopping by Rowdy! I appreciate the compliments and info... The LED panels are by Hydro Grow and each panel is 126W. Here's a link to their site:

http://www.hydrogrowled.com/

I'll check out the Advanced LED's, but I'm honestly struggling to make ends meet w/o full time work. I can't wait to get back into construction management, but it seems as I'm either over qualified or under qualified... Or there's hundreds of applicants for the jobs I'm perfectly qualified for.... LMFAO... some good the engineering degree and decade of experience has brought me. Enough of the rant. I feel better now.

Anyways, I'll need to get a 1/10 hp chiller when I eventually upgrade to run the Under Current. Seems like the Chill King are good chillers, but I'll have to figure out where to place it... I guess outside the bedroom, but that's a problem as it would generate heat and be in plain view. I'm also not sure how far the chiller can be from the res. Any suggestions?

Justiceman · 06-16-2010, 10:43 PM

Damn dude nugs are looking on fire. Those shots are excellent man. For some reason they seem damn nice this. So since you have grown those strains under the LED and HPS would you say the LED is coming along just as fast.

barberhead420 · 06-17-2010, 12:00 AM

Yo shady, Rowdy is right...the chiller is def the way to go. I got a 2hp chillking with 4 iceboxes, water colled co2 generator, water cooled dehumidifier, and 75 gal res.All my equiptment is from Hydro Innovations, they are good people and seem to have their shit together. If you r gonna keep your chillking inside, you def need to vent the hot air out. I keep mine in my basement and a powerful fan vents mine just fine. It keeps my 4k room controlled to a T. I'll post some pics for ya

barberhead420 · 06-17-2010, 01:02 AM

barberhead420 · 06-17-2010, 01:06 AM

Above is my 2hp Chiller and below are the iceboxes connected to the chiller. 1 icebox per 1k light.

06-13-2010, 08:46 PM	#421
Shady “The Cannabis Cultivator” Join Date: May 2009 Location: In the cuts... Posts: 3,652	Round Five… The Final Flush Sup sfzoo, BIG CHEEFA, bananabuds420, OGEEZY, Tha Docta, Butcher Bob, Justiceman, and barberhead420! Thx for all the love and positive vibes... I wrote up a pretty good post, so I'll let that do the talking this time... Round Five… The Final Flush Whew… Round Five is now on cruise control. The last week of MOAB seemed to do the trick. Today I final flushed all the girls with 15 gal of R/O water and a little over 1 tsp/gal of FloraKleen, all of which was set to a 5.8 pH. Before I post the bud shots I took last night, I’d like to recap Round 5. There are 8 clones in coco and chunky perlite (1:1 ratio), and one clone in hydroton with the remaining 7 hydroton pots being the original seedlings germinated in the OP of Round 4. It has been a long journey for these seedlings, and this round has brought forth new challenges and first experiences with coco, drain to waste (DTW), and mixing two diff mediums in an automated system. As summer began and Round 6 was set into motion, the rooms became very hot… daily temps of 85 deg in the bathroom and 82 deg in the bedroom, and undoubtedly lower CO2 levels from all the plants including those in the Shady Veg Station. The additional plants and the upcoming Under Current addition will require proper ventilation, A/C, and a chiller. For now, let’s all enjoy some eye candy… Here’s a few quick shots under the 600W HPS… Master Kush x Bubba Kush… Double Underdawg #3… And now for the killer shots after lights out last night… Some more MxB shots… The OG Kush has some fat calyxes and smells absolutely dank… Raskal’s OG #2 (the autoflower) is actually looking pretty damn good and she’s solid as a rock… Raskal’s OG #1 stayed green till day 60 and has really put on some weight… And the new #3’s… Sensi Skunk #3… Raskal’s OG #3… Blue Hellfire x Kali Mist #3… The res has now been filled with RO set to 6.0 pH and I’ve added the secondary screen to keep the upper colas in place.
	~ MMC recipient in compliance with Prop215 & SB420 ~ Shady's Moment of Clarity... Under Current, Organic Soil, & Coco DTW Last edited by Shady; 06-13-2010 at 08:57 PM..

06-13-2010, 08:48 PM	#422
Shady “The Cannabis Cultivator” Join Date: May 2009 Location: In the cuts... Posts: 3,652	Round 6 Update... Things are also looking good in Round 6 LED test grow, but I’ll also need another screen there at the end... Over the last week the stretch is starting to slow down and yesterday I did the last cleanup of the sucker branches at the bottom canopy below the screen… The girls were fed the following mix wherein I’ve discontinued the N.U.T.S. and lowered the overall PPM’s. The PK booster will be used in Wks 3, 5, 7, and possibly 8. I’m not sure when to discontinue use of Roots Excelurator, but I will def continue it through Wk 5: Shady Round 6 LED Bloom Feedings… 6/11/10 Shady’s Mix to begin WK#4: CalMag (CM): 4 ml/gal Pure Blend Pro Soil (PBP Bloom): 10 ml/gal Flora Blend (FB): 10 ml/gal HammerHead PK 9/18 (HH): 0 ml/gal Bud Candy (BC): 5 ml/gal Roots Excelurator (RE): 1 ml/gal Total PPM’s(@ 0.5 conversion ratio): 754 PPM’s @ 6.32 pH The scrog looks great from the back… And the front… I also raised the panels to be exactly 6” above the highest colas… And still have a little more room to go higher if needed… The bud sites are developing nicely and the internode spacing is tight. Here’s a few of my fav strains starting to get some frost… OG Kush… Double Underdawg #3… Chemdawg’s Sister/D #1…
	~ MMC recipient in compliance with Prop215 & SB420 ~ Shady's Moment of Clarity... Under Current, Organic Soil, & Coco DTW

06-14-2010, 12:07 AM	#423
Sonnyjim23 New Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 97	Looking good shady, can't wait to see how frosty your nugs get since you are using that led. Keep on with the excellent work, I will definitely be around watchin!
Sonnyjim23 New Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 97

06-15-2010, 09:18 PM	#424
Shady “The Cannabis Cultivator” Join Date: May 2009 Location: In the cuts... Posts: 3,652	Shady Bud Shots… Thanks for stopping by Sonnyjim23! I really appreciate the good karma and kind words. Shady Bud Shots… Nothing crazy to report; just thought I’d share a few bud shots I took tonight… Round 5… Day 63 Sensi Skunk #3… OG Kush… Double Underdawg #3… MxB’s… Round 6… Day 28 Chemdawg’s Sister/D #1… Double Underdawg #3… A portion of the scrog… OG Kush…
	~ MMC recipient in compliance with Prop215 & SB420 ~ Shady's Moment of Clarity... Under Current, Organic Soil, & Coco DTW Last edited by Shady; 06-15-2010 at 11:00 PM..

06-16-2010, 05:23 PM	#426
Shady “The Cannabis Cultivator” Join Date: May 2009 Location: In the cuts... Posts: 3,652	Thx for stopping by Rowdy! I appreciate the compliments and info... The LED panels are by Hydro Grow and each panel is 126W. Here's a link to their site: http://www.hydrogrowled.com/ I'll check out the Advanced LED's, but I'm honestly struggling to make ends meet w/o full time work. I can't wait to get back into construction management, but it seems as I'm either over qualified or under qualified... Or there's hundreds of applicants for the jobs I'm perfectly qualified for.... LMFAO... some good the engineering degree and decade of experience has brought me. Enough of the rant. I feel better now. Anyways, I'll need to get a 1/10 hp chiller when I eventually upgrade to run the Under Current. Seems like the Chill King are good chillers, but I'll have to figure out where to place it... I guess outside the bedroom, but that's a problem as it would generate heat and be in plain view. I'm also not sure how far the chiller can be from the res. Any suggestions?
	~ MMC recipient in compliance with Prop215 & SB420 ~ Shady's Moment of Clarity... Under Current, Organic Soil, & Coco DTW

06-16-2010, 05:50 AM	#425
Rowdy Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Da basement Posts: 447	Nice work there Shady, you've got your hands full running so many unknowns. I talked to the Advanced rep the other day with their version of the LED panel, those things are bright. I was wondering what type of panels you are running and if you have ever looked into Enlux.com. I use soom of their red and blue LEDs as supplimental lighting and my dude at the grow store has been sent some 50/50 red/blue, and some 70/30 red/blue mixed bulbs to try out. These bulbs have a patent on the driver design and I have not seen anyone come close to the technology that this company is coming with. The second bit of info I'll share with you would be the use of a water cooled chiller system. I invested in a water cooled system this summer and have been pleasantly surprised at the control over night and day temps. I did get sent a bad unit, long story that I'll spare everyone with details. The company did make everything right in the end but , what a freaking nightmare it is to walk into your show and find 93 degree temps, ouch. When it is running smoothly the differential in day and night temps are creating some beatiful purple thru out. The only company doing anything in our field is Chillking but, I have done some more research and have found several chiller manufactures that are not even into our business yet. Competition is a good thing. Again outstanding job on the posting and pics you do, I wish my wife would give me a green light to post some pics. Keep pushing the technology boundary. Good luck, Peace.

06-16-2010, 10:43 PM	#427
Justiceman Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 546	Damn dude nugs are looking on fire. Those shots are excellent man. For some reason they seem damn nice this. So since you have grown those strains under the LED and HPS would you say the LED is coming along just as fast.
Justiceman Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 546	Prop 215 and SB420 compliant Justiceman's grow: The quest for Resin

06-17-2010, 12:00 AM	#428
barberhead420 Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: mile high Posts: 387	Yo shady, Rowdy is right...the chiller is def the way to go. I got a 2hp chillking with 4 iceboxes, water colled co2 generator, water cooled dehumidifier, and 75 gal res.All my equiptment is from Hydro Innovations, they are good people and seem to have their shit together. If you r gonna keep your chillking inside, you def need to vent the hot air out. I keep mine in my basement and a powerful fan vents mine just fine. It keeps my 4k room controlled to a T. I'll post some pics for ya
	Last edited by barberhead420; 06-17-2010 at 12:31 AM..

06-17-2010, 01:02 AM	#429
barberhead420 Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: mile high Posts: 387

06-17-2010, 01:06 AM	#430
barberhead420 Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: mile high Posts: 387	Above is my 2hp Chiller and below are the iceboxes connected to the chiller. 1 icebox per 1k light.

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