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[LORD SPACEDOCK]

 

Yeah, I totally agree. Your SCROG is nice and you put some real work into it, but you will get probably 1/2 to a full lb more buds if you went vertical.

I run a super-pricey hood on my 1k, but if I had your setup and area, especially with the plants at that stage... I would definately switch to SCROGing the Walls like Yoda Butcher says or just running those pots in circles around each of the lights...

You just aren't getting any effecient illumination off the bottom of a HID bulb. The design of the element inside is built to THRUST light out to each side. Not down.

And brother you ain't telling this group anything about not affording hoods and such. Erudite, Bob and myself are just suggesting how we think you can get the most out of your current grow :-)...

Cheers mate, your grow is outstanding. Foiliage is green and lush so either way you are going to have a nice smoke soon...

[vial]

 

Originally Posted by LORD SPACEDOCK

Yeah, I totally agree. Your SCROG is nice and you put some real work into it, but you will get probably 1/2 to a full lb more buds if you went vertical.

I run a super-pricey hood on my 1k, but if I had your setup and area, especially with the plants at that stage... I would definately switch to SCROGing the Walls like Yoda Butcher says or just running those pots in circles around each of the lights...

You just aren't getting any effecient illumination off the bottom of a HID bulb. The design of the element inside is built to THRUST light out to each side. Not down.

And brother you ain't telling this group anything about not affording hoods and such. Erudite, Bob and myself are just suggesting how we think you can get the most out of your current grow :-)...

Cheers mate, your grow is outstanding. Foiliage is green and lush so either way you are going to have a nice smoke soon...

Thank you. I aperciate the time you spent to look and put your 2 cents in i agree 100% with you on it being benificial for me to just Vert and circle but i planed to scrog. I plan to add hoods in the short future. befor my 2nd run forsure in the room.

i put alot of time and effort in so far a bit of loot. Yes i agree we all here are smart enought o make due with what we have or get the most out of what we have. So far this is the most ive been able to get with my true intentions not being disturbed. I plan to drop a few decent hoods, I have a El chepo hood in my single 1 k room atm and it works well for its purpos but i plan to buy a few of those "super-pricey" hoods just i wasnt planning for a few of lifes unexpected happenings. it's like those known unknowns if you know wut i mean.


id like to be able to just pick up the hoods hang them and be good to go so if that is a semi explanation for not having vert set up. Hell if i was gona run a vert room id have mine set up like zoo's witch is stupid impressive IMO.

[LORD SPACEDOCK]

 

Good Plan... I would suggest, at least for an "el Cheapo" hood solution, doing basic 6" Cool Tubes. They usually come with a wing reflector and you can eliminate virtually all heat problems because of them being enclosed in the glass. I bet you can find cool tubes for less than $130 each local somewhere. And thats a small price to pay for the results of turning those bulbs sideways...

[vial]

 

Originally Posted by LORD SPACEDOCK

Good Plan... I would suggest, at least for an "el Cheapo" hood solution, doing basic 6" Cool Tubes. They usually come with a wing reflector and you can eliminate virtually all heat problems because of them being enclosed in the glass. I bet you can find cool tubes for less than $130 each local somewhere. And thats a small price to pay for the results of turning those bulbs sideways...

yes i planned on spending a few more and getting the mondo hood's.... or something along those lines.

[Butcher Bob]

 

Originally Posted by LORD SPACEDOCK

You just aren't getting any effecient illumination off the bottom of a HID bulb. The design of the element inside is built to THRUST light out to each side. Not down.

^^ You do understand this point though right?...that there's gonna be a dead spot in the light zone, directly under the bulbs....and that the best light is comin out sideways, not down.

Still think I'd hang some netting on the sides....box ScrOG.

[vial]

 

Originally Posted by Butcher Bob

^^ You do understand this point though right?...that there's gonna be a dead spot in the light zone, directly under the bulbs....and that the best light is comin out sideways, not down.

Still think I'd hang some netting on the sides....box ScrOG.

I just might this run i have extra screen.... Thing is i kinda put the heavy sativa's in the back because my screen is on a semi slant IE taller in the back......


But i could run some screen up the walls I also plan to pull alot of shoots threw the screen and keep the bulb semi low IE so im shooting light directly at the top kola;s off the side of the bulbs



*kola* <---- light |bulb|----> *kola* in most vert grows dont you want the blulbs to hang at the same level as the top kola's ?????? i under stand ill have a hole in my screen's but come the last 3-4 weeks if i throw 1-2 more 600;s in the mix i shouldnt be lacking any light on my top Nug weight....


pluse what ever air bud on the bottem just gives me more of a excuse to get my buble bags wet this run... Altho i was tempted to Dry ice shake threw the buble bags this harvest.... not sure if any of you seen the youtube video of the dood shaking keif out of the work bag with just dry ice and dryed cured trim...

[vial]

 

Originally Posted by Butcher Bob

^^ You do understand this point though right?...that there's gonna be a dead spot in the light zone, directly under the bulbs....and that the best light is comin out sideways, not down.

Still think I'd hang some netting on the sides....box ScrOG.

Again cuz im stoned YES

[Butcher Bob]

 

Originally Posted by vial

...in most vert grows dont you want the blulbs to hang at the same level as the top kola's ??????

Most of the vert grows I've seen, top colas are higher than the light when they're done. Like the Krusty bucket system usin a checker board pattern alternatin plants in 5gal buckets & 1000w lights...I've seen pics where the tops of the plants end up a foot or two above the top of the lights. I would think if ya flipped the switch when the tops hit the plane of the middle of the bulb, then they should finish maybe 6'-12" above the bulb, and still be plenty dense. Now I'm jus talkin aboot the walls...yer still gonna have lotsa grow tips underneath too (not directly underneath, but at screen level). Those lower sights will be just as dense as those top ones, it's jus the top ones will be a bit bigger cuz they git the "top" hormones. Yer "fluff" is gonna be stuff that don't git light exposure, so against the walls it won't be underneath necessarily, but rather up against the wall.

... Altho i was tempted to Dry ice shake threw the buble bags this harvest.... not sure if any of you seen the youtube video of the dood shaking keif out of the work bag with just dry ice and dryed cured trim...

Link???
Sounds interestin.

[erudite]

 

Bob's got it, the bulb finishes inside the canopy in a properly done vert grow.

I put the end of my bulb at the tip of my tallest plant at the start of 12/12 and by week 3 it had been consumed by the canopy.

Its obviously your decision but I think you'd end up with double the end product if you tore that screen down and dropped those bulbs a few feet.

[vial]

 

Originally Posted by erudite

Bob's got it, the bulb finishes inside the canopy in a properly done vert grow.

I put the end of my bulb at the tip of my tallest plant at the start of 12/12 and by week 3 it had been consumed by the canopy.

Its obviously your decision but I think you'd end up with double the end product if you tore that screen down and dropped those bulbs a few feet.

im not gona doubt your point. hell i agree with it... I plan to keep the bulb pretty low.