Grow Journal Take: 2

[Samizzle]

 

Hey guys, here for my second try!

Got some clones from a friend and were they GRRRREEEAATT! They are going to be amazing, but I don't know if I dealt with them correctly off the bat. they're starting to turn a little yellow and get burnt. I think I over nuted em. I forgot that soil has natural nutes and I added a little grow. Should I just water them with clean water?

Thanks all and I'll be keeping better track of this one!

Now what I'm going for is vegging these guys for a few more days and switching to flower. My grow room is 19" x 36" x 64" so I really only want the ladies to get about 3 feet tall with hopefully 12-18 in there. I think I'll do SOG, but I'm really not that experienced with it so this will be my trial and error. My veg area is 8" x 22" x 19"
and I'd like to get the ladies about a foot tall or so and I was hoping the short veg area would allow them to focus on roots and girth rather than height. If that's not how it works let me know.

[Butcher Bob]

 

Ok, now ya made me learn aboot ya.

...I see yer all grow.

Originally Posted by Samizzle

Got some clones from a friend and were they GRRRREEEAATT! They are going to be amazing, but I don't know if I dealt with them correctly off the bat. they're starting to turn a little yellow and get burnt. I think I over nuted em. I forgot that soil has natural nutes and I added a little grow. Should I just water them with clean water?

Don't go gittin all worried aboot stuff.....pics & ask.

The lighter portions jus look like new growth...it'll git darker. And I see very lil tip burn. Jus go with water. Wut kinda soil ya use?

That cut'z got nice roots on it.

Now what I'm going for is vegging these guys for a few more days and switching to flower. My grow room is 19" x 36" x 64" so I really only want the ladies to get about 3 feet tall with hopefully 12-18 in there. I think I'll do SOG, but I'm really not that experienced with it so this will be my trial and error. My veg area is 8" x 22" x 19"
and I'd like to get the ladies about a foot tall or so and I was hoping the short veg area would allow them to focus on roots and girth rather than height. If that's not how it works let me know.

Umm, 4 & a half sqft ain't gonna hold 12-18 plants.....more like 3...6 maybe. Be pretty tight in there with 6...full but doable.

These clones were clean....right?

When you first pot up the clones, they will have very lil foliage growth, cuz they are expending most resources in developing roots into the newly available soil. After the plant has sufficiently rooted the pot, you will see a spurt in new foliage growth, as resources are now more available. It is probly at that time, that you notice the growth start agin, that you should switch to flower. If you wait too long, you already know wut happens. Now clones won't stretch as much as seedlings, but still, be prepared fer a doubling in height. Ya don't need 3' plants, the light only penetrates so far...you git 18-24" of good canopy foliage by the end, and yer good...anythin below that level's gonna be scrap anyways.

[Samizzle]

 

Originally Posted by Butcher Bob

Ok, now ya made me learn aboot ya.

...I see yer all grow.

Thanks Bob!!!

Originally Posted by Butcher Bob

The lighter portions jus look like new growth...it'll git darker. And I see very lil tip burn. Jus go with water. Wut kinda soil ya use?

I'm using fox farms Ocean Forest Soil, so it's said to have about 3 weeks in it and there's definitely a little burn on one of the ladies' leaves, but I'm sure it'll grow out of it.

Originally Posted by Butcher Bob

Umm, 4 & a half sqft ain't gonna hold 12-18 plants.....more like 3...6 maybe. Be pretty tight in there with 6...full but doable.

You don't think more than 6 will work with the SOG method? I want to throw a few more in in a few weeks, but i'm sure time will show me the truth and by the looks of your cut upz i'm probably just as well listening

Originally Posted by Butcher Bob

These clones were clean....right?

Lookin clean as a whistle and I trust the guy he's given me nothin but good vibes and I've already gotten a sample of the meds, so I know what they're like at their best

Originally Posted by Butcher Bob

It is probly at that time, that you notice the growth start agin, that you should switch to flower. If you wait too long, you already know wut happens.

Haha, oops, and I have a feeling they'll be ready to pop in the oven this weekend, I'll throw up some pics when I'm about to switch em just in case I or anyone else has some doubts.

Originally Posted by Butcher Bob

Now clones won't stretch as much as seedlings, but still, be prepared fer a doubling in height. Ya don't need 3' plants, the light only penetrates so far...you git 18-24" of good canopy foliage by the end, and yer good...anythin below that level's gonna be scrap anyways.

That'll be my test, keeping them lean and lookin' green! Trimming is what eluded me last time and I paid!

Thanks again for the help!!!

[Butcher Bob]

 

Originally Posted by Samizzle

I'm using fox farms Ocean Forest Soil, so it's said to have about 3 weeks in it...

More like 3-4 months.

You don't think more than 6 will work with the SOG method?

Nope. Generally speakin ya want a sqft or more fer each plant ina SOG. When I do it, plants kin take up anywhere from 12"x12" to 18"x18". Doin 6 will give 'em 12"x9" each...tight, but doable.

There is a technique called High Density SOG, where yer packin 'em in, 9 fer each sqft, but I do not see it as bein beneficial....it's extremely labor intensive, wastes a lotta the plants' energy, has pitifully low yields, and produces much scragglier lookin buds...I've yet to see anyone pull off a good grow usin it.

...I trust the guy...

Trust has nuttin to do with it....people kin be mistaken. Last time I got mites, my buddy swore up & down they din't come from him....but they did. My fault...I did not check 'em. So always, check the shit yerself. Git a good magnifier and inspect clones thoroughly b'fore addin to yer garden. This is one case where doin the double check kin prevent major headache from happenin.

...I have a feeling they'll be ready to pop in the oven this weekend, I'll throw up some pics when I'm about to switch em just in case I or anyone else has some doubts.

Usually aboot 1-2 weeks is good. Measure the heights...keep track. I measured a lot when I first started...helped me learn. Once ya've done that a coupla times, ya git a real good feel fer jus bein able to look at 'em & know.

[x0mb13]

 

everything looks awesome, this looks very promising!

[Samizzle]

 

Originally Posted by Butcher Bob

More like 3-4 months.

Damn, well then I'm going to have to get used to thinking about that while mixing nutes!

Originally Posted by Butcher Bob

Nope. Generally speakin ya want a sqft or more fer each plant ina SOG. When I do it, plants kin take up anywhere from 12"x12" to 18"x18". Doin 6 will give 'em 12"x9" each...tight, but doable.

Sounds like I'll have to do it with some tightness, but it should give me a better idea of trimming and keeping them all at a good size to avoid previous disasters.

Originally Posted by Butcher Bob

Trust has nuttin to do with it....people kin be mistaken. Last time I got mites, my buddy swore up & down they din't come from him....but they did. My fault...I did not check 'em. So always, check the shit yerself. Git a good magnifier and inspect clones thoroughly b'fore addin to yer garden. This is one case where doin the double check kin prevent major headache from happenin.

Sound advice, a will do for the next batch and I checked these puppies with magnifying glass a few minutes ago and no black balls or white dust!

Originally Posted by Butcher Bob

Usually aboot 1-2 weeks is good. Measure the heights...keep track. I measured a lot when I first started...helped me learn. Once ya've done that a coupla times, ya git a real good feel fer jus bein able to look at 'em & know.

They're all between 6 1/2-7 1/2 in size, do you think I should wait til they hit 10-12 inches before putting them into flower. It seems, as of now, that the ladies are sprouting significantly wider growth and slowly creeping up to the 22 t-5, which as of now is about 6-8 inches away from their tops.

Thanks again bob!!!, and x0mb13, the support is really encouraging!

Now its time to

Cheers!!!

[Butcher Bob]

 

Originally Posted by Samizzle

They're all between 6 1/2-7 1/2 in size, do you think I should wait til they hit 10-12 inches before putting them into flower.

Yes. I got a larger room & throw 'em in at 12-18", but yer gonna be packin 'em in space-wise, so 10-12" should be a good time fer the switch.


So wudya git fer strains this time?

[Samizzle]

 

Originally Posted by Butcher Bob

So wudya git fer strains this time?

Those babies are cali wreckage and they smell dank! Not sure of the lineage, if anyone wants to clue me in, but they've been fast growers and are getting bushy, check the pics!!! I have one question, though, about the last picture. This is a Uk Blue clone I also got from the same friend, but it seems to be just straight yellow after a week! there has been some new growth with the middle leaf, but I was wondering if the soil's nute value is too much for this transplant? My guy said it was really hard to get one of these to live so he gave me two, one in good shape, and this one. Thanks!!!

[Butcher Bob]

 

Originally Posted by Samizzle

This is a Uk Blue clone I also got from the same friend, but it seems to be just straight yellow after a week! there has been some new growth with the middle leaf, but I was wondering if the soil's nute value is too much for this transplant? My guy said it was really hard to get one of these to live so he gave me two, one in good shape, and this one.

You are thinkin correctly. Ya see on the older leaves the tip burn, the yellowin on the edges (beginnin of a burn), and the curlin of those leaves...all signs of too much food. Add to that the yellow, clawed, curled new leaf growth, and yer pretty much guaranteed the soil's too hot fer it. Must be a light eater. It may or may not grow outta it. Make yerself a note, that if ya ever git that strain agin, cut yer OF with a lil non-fert'd soil...maybe 2 parts OF, 1 part non-fert.

The other ones all look good though.

[Samizzle]

 

Originally Posted by Butcher Bob

You are thinkin correctly. Ya see on the older leaves the tip burn, the yellowin on the edges (beginnin of a burn), and the curlin of those leaves...all signs of too much food. Add to that the yellow, clawed, curled new leaf growth, and yer pretty much guaranteed the soil's too hot fer it. Must be a light eater. It may or may not grow outta it. Make yerself a note, that if ya ever git that strain agin, cut yer OF with a lil non-fert'd soil...maybe 2 parts OF, 1 part non-fert.

The other ones all look good though.

Boo, could superthrive or something else help her out or am I just gonna have to push through and see what transpires? Also I was wondering if I should throw some soil on what's already there as an extra top layer to create more depth for water when I decide to flip the other ladies to flower. It seems like the water keeps displacing too much soil and I can sometimes see the top roots show for a second before I cover them up. Thanks for the help so far, It's coming together nicely!